1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 In the beginning, how it led up to this and what you saw. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Okay, the first thing that happened, we took off up into the hills. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 We hiked the trail, section three lake trail. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 We went back again about six miles and then started getting dark. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 We sat down and had a cigarette. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 My friend Tom jumped something. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 He wasn't sure about where it was. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 It was pretty fast that it went up the hill. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 It was a bunch of shale rocks and a little patch of brush. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 We sat there and shrugged it off. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 We kind of ignored it. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:43,000 After we got down to the cigarette, we started walking back out. 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 It was time we started walking out. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 It was just dark. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,000 We got down about a half mile to a mile. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 We started hearing some twigs. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 We at Junior heard some twigs behind us breaking. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 We told Tom about it. 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Tom turned around and flashed real quick. 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 We kept on walking. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 We kept hearing these noises behind us. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 We kept on walking. 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Tom was trying to flash back every time we'd hear something. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 We finally made it to camp. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 We got down to camp and went down and started a fire. 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 I got the fire started. 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Tom got his tube seat out of the back. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 He sat down. 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 After that, I had to flash on the hatchet in my hand. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 I went and chopped some wood off of this old rock log. 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I shined the light up across the pond. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 When I shined across the pond, I could see his greenish yellow eyes. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 They were glowing. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 I yelled for Tom. 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Tom came over there and he'd seen him too. 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 After that, we ignored it and sat back down. 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Tom got back up about three or five minutes later. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 He shined the flashlight over there. 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 He shined the whole body and had the greenish yellow eyes. 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Can you hold for a minute, Tim? 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Thanks for holding, Earl. 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Go ahead. 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 When Tom shined the light over, he'd seen it. 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 He yelled for me. 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 He yelled for me at Junior Gaudab too. 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 We both ran around the other side of the fire. 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 We looked and saw what this was. 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 When we'd seen it, it was tall. 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 It was about eight or nine or ten foot tall. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I'm not trying to dream this up for anything, but it was. 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 It was just big. 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 It had shoulders. 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Bigger in health. 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 It was also furry. 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 It looked like a human. 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Tom got his gun. 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 He got the 300. 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 We had a 700. 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 He fired the 300 six times in the air to scare it off. 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 He fired the 700. 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 He fired that once because that's the loudest gun we had. 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 It didn't even work. 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Every time we'd shined the flashlight at it, it was shy of light. 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,000 The next thing I'd do was get out of here. 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 We got the sleep bag. 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Then, after Junior came back out of the tent with the sleep bag, 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 it was an awful scream. 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,000 It was like a bobcat or something screaming. 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,000 We just got paranoid and took off. 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 We were too scared and left the tent and everything out there. 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 We'd seen it. 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 It was big. 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Me and the other two guys had seen it too. 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 How far away would you say that creature was from you? 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 I think it was about 100 yards. 76 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 It could be farther or less. 77 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I'm not sure. 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Did it respond at all to your flashlight beam? 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 It was shy to it. 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 It turned away from it. 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Did the beam actually hit it? 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 The beam was right on it. 83 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 The flashlight beam was. 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 It was pretty powerful. 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Tom still got it. 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,000 It was enough there to scare a person. 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 You haven't been back there since? 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 No. 89 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 We went back up the next day for hunting. 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 We looked around and found little kids' footprints. 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,000 We never seen those up there when we were up there hunting. 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 I walked all around that pond until Junior and Tom. 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 We never seen a thing up there. 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Footprints. 95 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 How was the weather then? 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 The weather was nice during the day. 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 During the night, it started to get cloudy. 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I'm not sure. 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 A bunch of clouds went over. 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 It was still minus the next day. 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 It was still cloudy. 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 During those hours of darkness, did you see anything in the sky? 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 No, we didn't. 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000 How long would you say you had that creature in your observation? 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 I'm not sure. 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 I mean, about 15 minutes or a little bit more. 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Do you have any idea when you spotted it? 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 About what time? 109 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 I'm not sure. 110 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 It was after a little after dark. 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:21,000 It could have been between 8.39 and around there. 112 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 I'm not really sure. 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Tom's one I had to watch. 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 I don't care what I broke mine. 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,000 What is Tom's phone number? 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 I knew it, but the problem was, I got ready to go hunting. 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I could get a hold. 118 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 If not, I just came to get a new phone number. 119 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 I just can't get a hold of him. 120 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 He was supposed to be up there in June. 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 I'm long-todd. 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 You guys called earlier. 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Do you happen to have his address? 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 I know it's on R Street. 125 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 What about the name of the third party? 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Jerry, but I called him Junior. 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Jerry? 128 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 He's from Woodbush. 129 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 How's that last name spelled? 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 I'm not sure. 131 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 You had quite a few calls on this? 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I've had radio stations call me. 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Has there been any private organizations? 134 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Not as far as I know. 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 We've been gone today. 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 It's got some parts of my four-wheel drive today. 137 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Are you going to go back to that area and get your tent? 138 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 I got the tent. 139 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 The Ranger got it and the Sheriff did for me. 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 We're planning to go back up there tomorrow. 141 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Did they look the area over pretty good? 142 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Yeah, they looked it over. 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 All they could find was those small footprints? 144 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Yeah, they found those small footprints. 145 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 We had a plate full of food up there. 146 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 It was already 8. 147 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 The Ranger found our pot cans. 148 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 We just left the boy and took off. 149 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Could you give me as close as you can the precise location? 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Where it was at? 151 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Can you tell me how to get in there? 152 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Yes. 153 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Do you know where the white path is? 154 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Yes. 155 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Do you know where the tightness is? 156 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 It's called... 157 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 You might know where Clear Lake is. 158 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Clear Lake? 159 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Okay. 160 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 When you turn off the white path, 161 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 highway will be assigned as tight. 162 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 You turn there and go back in. 163 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Stay on the black top road. 164 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Don't go off it. 165 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 You have to turn. 166 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Follow that around. 167 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 If you don't, the road straight ahead is all gravel. 168 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 The road we were on is all black top. 169 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 You follow that and go up in there. 170 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I'll say on how many miles it is. 171 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 It's right there. 172 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 You see a sign off the road. 173 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 It says Pine Grass Bridge. 174 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 You follow that road up there. 175 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 You keep following. 176 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The road is turned off to the left, halfway up. 177 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Don't take that road. 178 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Keep going. 179 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 It's the third road. 180 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 The fourth road up there. 181 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 It's the third road up to the right. 182 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 You turn here. 183 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 You just keep merit here. 184 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 There's another road. 185 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 It says Section 3 Lake. 186 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Just watch for the sign. 187 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 I see that's where you were at. 188 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 When you get up there at the top, 189 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 you see where we had our fire. 190 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 We parked you in the states. 191 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 We pulled up the ground. 192 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 We parked the picnic cable. 193 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Where there's a fire is, 194 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 we got a rock pit. 195 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Right in front there's a log there. 196 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 You can look out. 197 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 There's a pond there. 198 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 There's two trails leading up to Section 3 Lake. 199 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 It's the second trail over. 200 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 The shortcut went out. 201 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 It's grassy.